I would say there is reason to believe that Maggie is exaggerating her sister’s character flaws, however there is debate on whether those exaggerations are simple lies, or are corroded memories inside Maggie’s not all together head.
Heeeeeeeey Maggie. Do we think we are maybe deflecting some personal issues onto our older sister? No? Very well I suppose carry on.
Also I love seeing Mustard troubled past!!! It’s interesting to see how HARD a left turn her personality took after losing her sister. Grief really can manifest in the strangest ways. She’s been so kind and generous and patient this whole comic and now she’s on her downward spiral and we find out she wasn’t always the kind hearted angel she was introduced as, oooo love it. Also Echo is killing it as always 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Lots of people are jerks as teenagers. Some grow out of it before they hurt someone or do something regrettable. Some don’t, and spend years or decades regretting or atoning for it. And some don’t grow up at all.
And some, apparently, respond to other teenagers being jerks by faking their deaths and re-emerging years later as supervillains in an evil organization that shoots at teenagers on a field trip with assault rifles. I’m not saying trying to pull your jerk sister down a peg in while you’re both in high school isn’t on some level understandable, but maybe next time choose a method that’s less, well, *evil*, hm?
I’d also like to add that if I had a penny for every story I’ve read where someone responds to their siblings being irresponsible teenagers by faking their deaths, becoming terrorist supercriminals with a fake identity and returning years later to antagonize them out of the blue… I’d have two pennies.
Which isn’t a lot, but still a weirdly specific thing to read about twice.
Keeping in mind that the sibling reveal is the huge plot twist of the story and I give it away just by naming it: It’s a japanese visual novel called G-Senjou no Maou. It’s not very good and R-18, with a lot of naughty bits in it. Soundtrack is cool if you’re a classical music fan though.
We don’t have much insight into how Maggie reached this point. I personally doubt that faking her death was her own idea, or that she would have accepted it without brainwashing.
Ok, so this is a really interesting backstory, but also, we need to keep in mind that Maggie is an insanely unreliable narrator (Morgan seemed ok in that one other flashback and got along with Maggie well enough), plus, even then, this still all boils down to “cool motive, still murder” at the end of the day.
There is something that happened between that past and Echo being “created” that we dont know yet, and I wonder what it could be.
Look. I’m not saying she’s definitely lying at this point. But framing Mustard as so bad in high school people would want to kill her and that Maggie’s teasing probably saved her life is an exaggeration….she’s definitely lying.
I think it’s fascinating that many people in these comments have decided that Maggie MUST be an unreliable narrator. Morgan may have just sucked! People grow! People remember their own lives very differently!
I probably should have saved the “everyone’s an unreliable narrator when it comes to their siblings” line for this comment.
There are other reasons to think Maggie might not be telling the complete, unvarnished truth about Morgan. But that one seems pretty inarguable. Morgan’s irritating qualities stand out more to Maggie, while the things others like about Maggie wouldn’t necessarily register.
The same is true in reverse, of course, but Morgan isn’t the sibling making a supervillain rant out of it.
Maggie is probably not outright lying; Morgan probably would have spoken up if she was. But there’s a wide gulf between a fabrication and the full truth.
I think it’s because we haven’t seen Morgan doing anything in the flashbacks terrible enough that someone would have wanted to kill her. She comes across as arrogant and tactless, but not cruel.
The reactions of the people in the flashback seem very out of proportion with how we see her actually behaving.
Yeah, so far she’s…been rude about paying fifty bucks for a sticky bun, and been fed up (And a little controlling) with her clown of a sister while still being worried about her. (Though she didn’t deny the teacher blackmail. I’m curious about how far that went.)
She was clearly Not Great, but not so far gone that she’d get a shiv.
I think on of the reasons why we distrust Maggie more than Morgan is the fact that Maggie, as far as we know, genuinly wanted to become a Clown before her “death”. Morgan actually made fun of that, and then became one herself in memory of her Sister, so there defintely was some sort of Character growth from her side involved.
Arguably, we also only see that flashback through her eyes, so yes, she too is an unreliable narrator that might have made her own behaviour less harmful and/or romantisized the memory of her sister, thats very possible.
But the big thing is, we still have no clue what made Maggie go from the sassy little mischief-maker we saw in that old flashback to serial-terrorist. She went from wanting to be a Clown to trying to murder all of them, thats not something you do because your sister was mean to you. If this was all about getting back at Morgan, well, that would probably have started back before her death, and I highly doubt she planned EVERYTHING that happend since then, especially considering what she did to Ringmaster. No, there is still something we dont know, another, newer motivation, and given that this comic has already gone out of its way to mock the classic “we had a unspecified tragic event in our past so our atrocities against completely unrelated innocents are very justified actually!” argument I wonder what we might still be missing. Not to mention that we still dont know how/why she “died” and how she ended up with Ringmaster. There is agood chance that she is still to some degree suffering under his manipulations without being aware of it, convincing people of crazy shit was his whole thing.
Which just makes the whole thing more interesting, theres just so many details we still lack!
Maggie’s barely been able to move her mouth for so long; talking so much and flashing those murderous grins have GOT to be killer on the lip muscles.
But however reliable or unreliable a narrator she may be, however bad Morgan may have been before…we know that’s not who she is now. She’s Agent Mustard of the Clown Corps, someone who upholds their original values and always acts how she thinks is right. And if she wants to bury the mean girl she was before, she’s got to cut through the mouthy mime’s BS, put the safety of the public over her own feelings, and- and this is the most important step here- CALL BINKY.
Eeesh, Maggie’s laying on the guilt trip thick, and playing mind games hard. “I don’t care, you’re just some clown” is a blatant lie though, you put on MAKEUP for this date Maggie.
Morrigan… wreck her self-righteous snot.
Maggie, I don’t think that’s a fully honest statement. Good one-liner tho
I would say there is reason to believe that Maggie is exaggerating her sister’s character flaws, however there is debate on whether those exaggerations are simple lies, or are corroded memories inside Maggie’s not all together head.
This is sad. I’m sad. Riveted, but sad.
Heeeeeeeey Maggie. Do we think we are maybe deflecting some personal issues onto our older sister? No? Very well I suppose carry on.
Also I love seeing Mustard troubled past!!! It’s interesting to see how HARD a left turn her personality took after losing her sister. Grief really can manifest in the strangest ways. She’s been so kind and generous and patient this whole comic and now she’s on her downward spiral and we find out she wasn’t always the kind hearted angel she was introduced as, oooo love it. Also Echo is killing it as always 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
No, she’s killing Morgan.
Interesting that Maggie is using the same routine as “just some clown”. A matter of convenience, or…?
Lots of people are jerks as teenagers. Some grow out of it before they hurt someone or do something regrettable. Some don’t, and spend years or decades regretting or atoning for it. And some don’t grow up at all.
And some, apparently, respond to other teenagers being jerks by faking their deaths and re-emerging years later as supervillains in an evil organization that shoots at teenagers on a field trip with assault rifles. I’m not saying trying to pull your jerk sister down a peg in while you’re both in high school isn’t on some level understandable, but maybe next time choose a method that’s less, well, *evil*, hm?
I’d also like to add that if I had a penny for every story I’ve read where someone responds to their siblings being irresponsible teenagers by faking their deaths, becoming terrorist supercriminals with a fake identity and returning years later to antagonize them out of the blue… I’d have two pennies.
Which isn’t a lot, but still a weirdly specific thing to read about twice.
What’s the other story you read?
Keeping in mind that the sibling reveal is the huge plot twist of the story and I give it away just by naming it: It’s a japanese visual novel called G-Senjou no Maou. It’s not very good and R-18, with a lot of naughty bits in it. Soundtrack is cool if you’re a classical music fan though.
If I had a nickel for every time I’d heard that something was bad but had a good OST…well, I wouldn’t be rich, but I could get new tires for my car.
We don’t have much insight into how Maggie reached this point. I personally doubt that faking her death was her own idea, or that she would have accepted it without brainwashing.
Ok, so this is a really interesting backstory, but also, we need to keep in mind that Maggie is an insanely unreliable narrator (Morgan seemed ok in that one other flashback and got along with Maggie well enough), plus, even then, this still all boils down to “cool motive, still murder” at the end of the day.
There is something that happened between that past and Echo being “created” that we dont know yet, and I wonder what it could be.
Everyone’s an unreliable narrator when it comes to their siblings. Maggie is just too immature to admit it.
Look. I’m not saying she’s definitely lying at this point. But framing Mustard as so bad in high school people would want to kill her and that Maggie’s teasing probably saved her life is an exaggeration….she’s definitely lying.
I think it’s fascinating that many people in these comments have decided that Maggie MUST be an unreliable narrator. Morgan may have just sucked! People grow! People remember their own lives very differently!
I probably should have saved the “everyone’s an unreliable narrator when it comes to their siblings” line for this comment.
There are other reasons to think Maggie might not be telling the complete, unvarnished truth about Morgan. But that one seems pretty inarguable. Morgan’s irritating qualities stand out more to Maggie, while the things others like about Maggie wouldn’t necessarily register.
The same is true in reverse, of course, but Morgan isn’t the sibling making a supervillain rant out of it.
Maggie is probably not outright lying; Morgan probably would have spoken up if she was. But there’s a wide gulf between a fabrication and the full truth.
I think it’s because we haven’t seen Morgan doing anything in the flashbacks terrible enough that someone would have wanted to kill her. She comes across as arrogant and tactless, but not cruel.
The reactions of the people in the flashback seem very out of proportion with how we see her actually behaving.
Yeah, so far she’s…been rude about paying fifty bucks for a sticky bun, and been fed up (And a little controlling) with her clown of a sister while still being worried about her. (Though she didn’t deny the teacher blackmail. I’m curious about how far that went.)
She was clearly Not Great, but not so far gone that she’d get a shiv.
I think on of the reasons why we distrust Maggie more than Morgan is the fact that Maggie, as far as we know, genuinly wanted to become a Clown before her “death”. Morgan actually made fun of that, and then became one herself in memory of her Sister, so there defintely was some sort of Character growth from her side involved.
Arguably, we also only see that flashback through her eyes, so yes, she too is an unreliable narrator that might have made her own behaviour less harmful and/or romantisized the memory of her sister, thats very possible.
But the big thing is, we still have no clue what made Maggie go from the sassy little mischief-maker we saw in that old flashback to serial-terrorist. She went from wanting to be a Clown to trying to murder all of them, thats not something you do because your sister was mean to you. If this was all about getting back at Morgan, well, that would probably have started back before her death, and I highly doubt she planned EVERYTHING that happend since then, especially considering what she did to Ringmaster. No, there is still something we dont know, another, newer motivation, and given that this comic has already gone out of its way to mock the classic “we had a unspecified tragic event in our past so our atrocities against completely unrelated innocents are very justified actually!” argument I wonder what we might still be missing. Not to mention that we still dont know how/why she “died” and how she ended up with Ringmaster. There is agood chance that she is still to some degree suffering under his manipulations without being aware of it, convincing people of crazy shit was his whole thing.
Which just makes the whole thing more interesting, theres just so many details we still lack!
Maggie’s barely been able to move her mouth for so long; talking so much and flashing those murderous grins have GOT to be killer on the lip muscles.
But however reliable or unreliable a narrator she may be, however bad Morgan may have been before…we know that’s not who she is now. She’s Agent Mustard of the Clown Corps, someone who upholds their original values and always acts how she thinks is right. And if she wants to bury the mean girl she was before, she’s got to cut through the mouthy mime’s BS, put the safety of the public over her own feelings, and- and this is the most important step here- CALL BINKY.
I should amend this by saying obviously she’s not been that person in this chapter, but also there’s extenuating circumstances afoot.
There’s a chance she already called Binky offscreen. A very, very small chance.
Eeesh, Maggie’s laying on the guilt trip thick, and playing mind games hard. “I don’t care, you’re just some clown” is a blatant lie though, you put on MAKEUP for this date Maggie.
Maggie is also a clown. Whether she admits it or not.
Anyways, yes, 123 is a cute number.
Of course you hit 123. That’s what happens when you have two major character arcs at the same time.
Tragic backstory. Not sure who it is tragic for, yet.
Anyone else think Maggie is using Ring Master’s routine here?